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  • New Comment Policy - You Want To Read This

    I told ya it was coming ;) . When I announced the top commenter winners for January, I stated that there were two posts coming regarding comments on this blog. A general one regarding the official comment policy of this blog and a whole separate page regarding rules & tips for the monthly top commenter contests.

    There IS a new updated comment policy and you DO want to read it, as it WILL be enforced. And yes, a few slicksters out there may want to consider that a threat ;) .

    Relax. It’s very simple, straight forward and logical. Not to mention, still more lenient then most I’ve seen. All in all though, it had to be done.

    I do wish to sincerely apologize to a select few in regards to number 1. In the past I allowed a 3rd option for the name field…..pure keywords as long as you signed a real name under your comment.

    Due to skimmers this is no longer allowed.

    What’s a skimmer? An idiot that merely skims the comments soley looking at the name fields. They don’t actually look at the comment itself (to see if there’s a name there) but simply looking to see who else left pure keywords so they can do it to.

    There will be no exceptions to this policy. No excuses either; there’s a big fat link right above the comment box (opens in a new window). With all the goodness I provide, I’m tired of some taking advantage. I believe it was Sire who said in one of his posts, “it’s like some just give you the finger”…something like that, and he’s quite right.

    Luckily we seem to have built an awesome community here! The largest percentage of you have nothing to fear, thank you for that. Hopefully in the future, I can figure a way to give even more perks to those that truly deserve it :) .

    Thanks for understanding,
    Dennis

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    85 Responses to “New Comment Policy - You Want To Read This”

    1. Mirjam Says:

      hey Dennis
      I´ve always wondered about the use of a “public comment policy” … (btw, are you gonna put a direct link to your comment policy on a visible place?) seeing that people looking for just building links normally just dump their link without spending time on the blog and certainly not reading comment policies, and those that are actively participating on a blog probably won´t think of spamming in anyway….

      looks like I finally got to comment first LOL, probably because I wasn´t the only one not being to access the post ;)
      Mirjam´s last blog post..Things Are Gonna Change Around Here!

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Mirjam, Did you see the big fat link right on top the comment box? I mentioned it in the post also.

      Btw, thanks again for the access heads up. ;)

      Mirjam Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, ROFL nope, hadn´t noticed it at all!
      and, you´re welcome :)

    2. Sheryl Loch Says:

      Wow, you have become a real meanie in your old age. Hmmph, I now will have to see how many of these new rules I break. Oh, never mind Sire is the rule breaker (is that fun banter acceptable?). Sorry getting off topic! My bad!

      I just heard a ‘big’ guy talking that his new program to automate blog comments was almost ready to launch. All we need is another one.

      Ok, I think you have done fine & I will try to behave when I come here.

      Sheryl Loch´s last blog post..Saving Time Answering Questions

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sheryl Loch, WOW meanie, old, AND I let the comment pass…I must be an awesome dude! ;)

      Very few if any of my regulars like yourself have little to fear. None of it is “new” persay, I just took it from my head to the public page. :)

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, “Today’s gurus are yesterday’s spammers”, with 1 or 2 exceptions.

      However, some of these auto commenters are OK, I’ve used one or two in the past…..the acceptable ones are the ones that automate the “field” entries (name, url, email), but you STILL have to hand type the comment

      Sheryl Loch Reply:

      @Dennis Edell,
      Ok, you aren’t as mean as the others said.

      The automated system they are putting out is one where you just write a general comment & let it go.

      Sheryl Loch´s last blog post..Loaded Web Blog Directory - Brand New

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sheryl Loch, LOL gee thanks.

      Feel free to email me this idiots name. I like to keep up on who spews crap around the ‘net….it’s quite obvious nothing he says or does should be followed with any seriousness.

    3. Janrafi - Earn Money Online Says:

      how about nicknames? janrafi is not my real name but a nickname. i think i followed the rules since i put a dash before the keywords as your rule states.

      thanks for dropping by my blog too.

      Janrafi - Earn Money Online´s last blog post..Selling yourself just to earn money

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Janrafi - Earn Money Online, Whoops my bad, I just edited the policy to include one-word nicknames…you’re good. ;)

    4. David Hobson Says:

      Dennis this a rule i am seriously considering on my blog and one i feel is a very good one.

      Also still awaiting your email about januarys winners.

      David Hobson´s last blog post..Introducing Boosh Articles Our New Article Directory

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @David Hobson, Email coming today. :)

    5. Sire Says:

      Man, I am really shocked, not that you have updated your comment policy but that you took so damn long. Now, in regards to the name policy, I am not sure where that leaves me as Sire is not my real name but is also not a keyword. What say you master Dennis.

      Sire´s last blog post..Sony’s Latest Piece Of Electronic Shit Takes America By Storm

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sire, Yep just updated my policy as I flaked on nicknames…you’re OK.

      I wouldn’t say it’s late though. I wasn’t going to update it at all until many failed miserably during January’s TC contest (it was an unofficial test) ;)

      Sire Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Cool, and it’s all good Dennis, you know how much I love BS’n you :D
      Sire´s last blog post..Sony’s Latest Piece Of Electronic Shit Takes America By Storm

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sire, Come to think of it, isn’t “Sire” a bit over the top? I’m thinkin’ maybe “Jester”, no? ;)

      Sire Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, I’ve been known as Sire even before my blogging career. It has more to do with my gentlemanly manners than anything else. ;)
      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Mitch Reply:

      @Sire, Gentlemanly manners, eh? Do we have to go back and show that video again? lol

      I hadn’t thought about nicknames in Dennis’ policy, but I’m glad that was taken care of.

      Mitch´s last blog post..Book Writing Series Part Seven - Contacting Publishers

      Sire Reply:

      @Mitch, Hey, even a gentleman is allowed a witty sense of humor. :D
      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Suzanne Franco Reply:

      @Mitch ~ wait wait … what video did I miss?! LOL *huGs* S

      Suzanne Franco´s last blog post..Update on My BANS (Build a Niche Stores) Profits

      Mitch Reply:

      @Suzanne Franco, Check out Sire’s video here; be prepared, for it’s slightly crude.

      Suzanne Franco Reply:

      @Mitch ~ Hey Mitch … how have been?

      So Sire … “gentelmanly manners” huh? I do have to wonder … has that “line” actually worked for you? Try that here in Texas … and well … I just wouldn’t. LOL

      Thanks for sharing Mitch *SmiLes* S

      Suzanne Franco´s last blog post..Update on My BANS (Build a Niche Stores) Profits

      Sire Reply:

      @Suzanne Franco, Depends how you mean worked for me Suzanne. If you mean did it ever get laid, I would have to say no as I never really used it that way. It was always used as a joke and I told both women and men and I always got a laugh.

      Sire´s last blog post..Translation Of A Big Night Out

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sire, Man if I even attempted a reply to this I’d be late for dinner…it’s 1pm now.

      Sire Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Sounds like a blog post in the making :D
      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sire, or an ebook…

      Sire Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Yay, another ebook! Do I get a free copy?

      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Sire, Well no, but I’d only charge you slightly more then others.

      Sire Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Well in that case, I’ll have 10 LOL

      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

    6. Brian D. Hawkins Says:

      Your comment policy looks exactly like mine. I mean, if it doesn’t now it probably will when I update mine ;)

      I know it’s not exactly what you are talking about but I just deleted 143 spam comments. That just since lunch! It’s really getting bad lately.

      Don’t tell anyone but I used to change the URLs of those ‘Nice Posts’ and ‘I like your sites’ to LowLifeSpammer.com. It’s parked now but it used to tell everyone that clicked the link that the idiot is a comment spammer. I might put that back up. It was a little satisfying.

      Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog post..What Is In Your Background Thoughts?

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins, If you resurrect it, let me know. I might redirect a few also lol.

      Brian D. Hawkins Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, I resurrected LowLifeSpammer.com today and updated my comment policy too. Thanks for the inspiration :)
      Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog post..Internet Marketing Newbie Niche Still Very Popular

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins, LOL quite welcome my friend.

      Sheryl Loch Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins,
      OOO, I loved that URL when we had the old forums! We changed many a link to it & left the post so others would know to watch for that username as a spammer on their forums.

      Sheryl Loch´s last blog post..Are You Deep Linking to Improve Your SERP Results

      Brian D. Hawkins Reply:

      @Sheryl Loch, @Dennis, I’ll throw it back up this weekend. It’s just one page and it wont cost anything. I’ll let you know.

      Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog post..Internet Marketing Newbie Niche Still Very Popular

      Suzanne Franco Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins ~ Brian that’s sooo funny! Do you actually own that domain? Thanks for the laugh! LOL

      Suzanne Franco´s last blog post..Update on My BANS (Build a Niche Stores) Profits

    7. Mitch Says:

      Wow, tough policy; lots of policing coming, I suppose. And you’re right, you’ve done #2 a few times here and there. Still, you have a policy, and folks will have to stick by it. I’m not writing a policy; if you see your post, you know it’s okay, and if you don’t, you know it wasn’t; plain and simple. Good luck with it all.

      Mitch´s last blog post..At Least Be Professional In Your Writing

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Mitch,

      Tough? No, ya think? Seriously? It may sound harsh but I do think it’s quite lenient. Just about everything in there has been in my head since day one and used while moderating comments…it’s just time I made it official.

      Ned Carey Reply:

      @Mitch,

      The only thing the least bit restrictive is use a real name. That is a pretty common expectation from bloggers and at least Dennis is telling people up front about it. Many bloggers would send you right to the Akismet filter without any advance warning for doing that.

      Ned Carey´s last blog post..Great Marketing With a Sense of Humor!

    8. Katherine Grey Says:

      This policy is very reasonable. Your blog is really interesting and I hope I’ll be able to read and comment here regularly. Thanks for your great work!

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Katherine Grey, Comment away, lets hear those thoughts!

    9. Andy | West Florida Components Says:

      Dennis - It’s totally understandable that you had to institute this new policy. I’m sure it will cut down on the number of spammy comments.

      @Brian D. Hawkins: changing the URL to lowlifespammer.com is brilliant!

      Andy | West Florida Components´s last blog post..New Mystery Part: SCR5162-005 by Motorola

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Andy | West Florida Components, Thanks for the support!

      Brian D. Hawkins Reply:

      @Andy, Thanks Andy. I’m going to put it back to use :)
      Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog post..Internet Marketing Newbie Niche Still Very Popular

    10. Dan Says:

      I don’t think your comment policies are out of line and are just common sense. Especially when you consider that a lot of blogs allow no comments and some that do have not follow tags for urls.

      I am going to have to copy blatently copy your polices, embelish them a little and implement them into our training for our students and on our own blogs.

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Dan, First, welcome to the community! A blatant copy is cool since you announced it first…a credited backlink is always appreciated though. :)

      Dan Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Of course I would give you the credited back link. We want our students to have good online ethics just like we do.

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Dan, Thanks buddy and I love the attitude! I hope to see you ’round more often. :)

    11. Shirley Says:

      Very good polic, however I doubt the people who are leaving the spammy comments will truly read it and abide by it.

      As for the keywords in the name, that is a good move. I get completely irked when someone visits my blog and ONLY leaves keywords. However, I don’t mind it if they leave a name or a company name.

      Shirley´s last blog post..Can Your Website Handle A Traffic Surge?

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Shirley, Nope true blue spammers wont look, but if they ever return and start to wonder, it’s there. lol

    12. Nick Says:

      I totally understand the reasoning behind your policy, although, I must admit that I am sometimes guilty of leaving a random link here and there in my comments (not always to my own site though) that only marginally applies to the post in question…but you’ve seen that and know what I’m talking about.

      Off topic conversations are fun and help increase the sense of community..why don’t you like that?

      I really like the name part for several reasons, but for my vote in regards to a couple of the questions asked above, I think Janrafi and Sire should be allowed to continue using those names because they are not keywords and more like nicknames :)
      Nick´s last blog post..Sunday Snapshots - 016

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Nick, Yea the randomness is what i like to avoid. To your own site or someone else is ok, as long as its (a little more then marginally) relevant.

      banter is great and community is what we are all here for! However, the newbie from Google or whatever may not stick around, and that’s not good.

      You come here looking for advice on a linking strategy and have to sift through 20 replies about a horrible ham sandwich…yea, that needs to be avoided. LOL

    13. JR @ Internet Marketing Strategies Says:

      Okay got it!

      JR @ Internet Marketing Strategies´s last blog post..Title Tags vs. Anchor Text - Link Attributes

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @JR @ Internet Marketing Strategies, LOL you my dear were never in jeopardy…although this adds very little. ;)

    14. Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate Says:

      Nice Dennis. I need to do a comment policy on my blog as well. So far so good, but I know I can ward off a problem by getting things out in front.

      I comment on blogs for the backlink and the knowledge. If the blog doesn’t offer anything but a backlink then I rarely return. I tend to ‘camp out’ at blogs I enjoy reading, hence, why I’ve been returning here to comment.

      Keep up the good work. ;)
      Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate´s last blog post..West Richland Homes For Sale

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate, Well rounded, I like that.

      One can always tell the link seekers real easy by the crappy comments.

    15. Gennaro Says:

      It strikes me that in blogging a person’s name (identity) is an important tool in building trust with readers. It’s smart to use it. I’d rather check out what Dennis Edell or Dennis Edell @ —– is doing than simply a company name.

      Unfortunately, spammers usually skip the comments policy. I’d be interested to see how many actually change their ways versus getting deleted.

      Gennaro´s last blog post..Travelers Must Help Free Rice And Kiva

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Gennaro, exactly right! It was much worse before threaded comments (with the automated @) when the blogger had to type

      @visitmycrappyblogthroughthiskeyword - thanks for the garbage.

      I think the only ones that will change or stop visiting are the “dedicated spammers”….the ones that will actually return each post to spam. vs. the “one-offs”.

    16. Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate Says:

      On a related note, I’m surprised many will take the chance of spamming blogs for backlinks. Once a person is in Akismet’s grips, they’re done! Occasionally, I’ll get an email from a colleagues to approve their comment so they can get out of Akismet’s spam filter. Apparently, it’s easier to get in, then to get out!

      Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate´s last blog post..West Richland Homes For Sale

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Colleen - Kennewick Real Estate, Much easier, which is why I gave the warning about not giving me the opportunity to hit the spam button on the comment…eventually it will follow the person from blog to blog and beyond.

    17. Alex at PPC-Coach Says:

      It would be interesting to see how many newcomers will actually read the policy. And I’m not talking about spammers, but SE traffic and those following your comments on other blogs….

      It there anyway you can track this? oooh, I know.. in the policy, mention that every commentator has to leave a certain mark in the end of their comment, say this one: ^ to participate in a great contest. muhahaha!!! :twisted:

      Cheers,
      Alex

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Alex at PPC-Coach, Interesting idea, but probably not lol.

      Newbies are one thing…I’m still waiting for some regulars to follow through. ;)

    18. The Moneyac Says:

      Ahh I hate these people.

      Thanks for updating us Dennis.

      I should also make some sort of a policy like this, otherwise you just spend most of the day filtering the comments.

      Cheers.

      The Moneyac´s last blog post..16 Interesting Internet Facts You Should Know About

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @The Moneyac, You’re welcome my friend, although I must ask, did you read it all the way through? ;)

    19. Christine Senter Says:

      I can’t say that I blame you for this, and it’s really too bad that a handful of people had to go and ruin it for everyone else.

      But, on the good side, it gave Sire a chance to grace us with one of his eloquent mannerisms. LOL (HI honey).

      But as I’ve always said, if you plan to have a comment contest, there are going to be those who will do all they can to scam the system.

      Christine Senter´s last blog post..In The “Write” Mood

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Christine Senter, thanks for understanding. ;)

      Wait for the rules/tips page comes out for the contests themselves. :)

      Christine Senter Reply:

      @Dennis Edell,

      Whoo Hoo, bring it on. I’m ready. LOL

      Christine Senter´s last blog post..In The “Write” Mood

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Christine Senter, LOL

      As long as I have you here, if you enjoy guest posting, can you shoot me an email? admin@dennisedell.com

      Sire Reply:

      @Christine Senter, Hi Christine :) Say, how about telling Sire which mannerism you are referring to?

      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Christine Senter Reply:

      @Sire, Oh, that little ditty we all know and love about giving admin the finger (mentioned in post above). Not one of your more famous ones, but still one of my favorites. LOL

      Dennis, shot you an email, let me know if you got it. :)
      Christine Senter´s last blog post..In The “Write” Mood

      Sire Reply:

      @Christine Senter, Oh, I thought perhaps you were referring to the mannerisms portrayed in my now famous youtube video :D
      Sire´s last blog post..Changing Your Lifestyle Doesn’t Have To be Painful

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Christine Senter, got it, will respond asap. :)

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    22. Suzanne Franco Says:

      Well … I’ve had some fun reading this one! First of all the “policy” is pretty standard and just plain common sense … you’d think … but obviously necessary. I’m glad you put it in place and I probably need to do the same. Askimet seems to catch most of my spam … but I get the biggest laugh out of the “spammy” comments that get left on my “comment pussy” post … I feel like putting them on through and then just saying …. “ummm … duhhhhh … cp!!!” Some people are … crazy! Plain and simple. *SmiLes* Suzanne

      Suzanne Franco´s last blog post..Update on My BANS (Build a Niche Stores) Profits

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Suzanne Franco, LOL glad you enjoyed it.

    23. Ben Pei Says:

      Seriously I don’t agree with people throwing in a link in their comments too. Especially those like “You can visit my site for more tips” kind..

      Ben Pei´s last blog post..Ben Got Hit By Dengue Fever

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Ben Pei, I don’t mind a link as long as it’s relevant, but you’re right; it does depend on the wording as well.

    24. Ned Carey Says:

      I just added a comment policy myself - not as elegant as yours.

      I am not much of a coder and I’m trying to figure out how to add a link to the comment policy as you did just above the comment box

      Ned Carey´s last blog post..1099s Are Due! Have You Sent Yours Out?

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Ned Carey,

      I like the policy, especially “You agree to grant a non-revocable assignable license…..” I may have to steal that. :)

      Send me an email to admin@dennisedell.com and I’ll reply with the link instructions. :)

    25. Ned Carey Says:

      Dennis,

      It occurred to me that the author of the comment owns the copyright to it. Perhaps there is an implied consent but I figured why not make it clear. As I build my business there may be a way to mine value from them - testimonials for example.

      Ned Carey´s last blog post..2009 Baltimore City Tax Sale Announced

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Ned Carey, A very fine line indeed. I think I’ll add it in. :)

    26. Jens Says:

      Concerning the intellectual property right on content of a comment - what is the typical situation in the US? This has been quite a debate over here in Europe …

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Jens, Welcome to the community!

      As far as I know, everything written by you belongs to you to start with. But, a blog belongs to it’s owner, so he/she can write policies/disclaimers, or what else to counter act it and then it’s up to the writer if they wish to follow it.

    27. Michael Says:

      skimmer? new to my ear, any details for that please…

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Michael, Basically just someone who scrolls the page to see if others are getting away with keywords.

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