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  • Threaded Comments Have Arrived! Edit Comments Is Coming…

    An important question awaits on EasyCashContests!

    Now here’s a post MANY of you have been waiting for! As discussed before, I was waiting so patiently for WP 2.7 to arrive for it’s integrated threaded comment capability…so I wouldn’t have to add an unnecessary plugin.

    However, due to personal preferences and paranoias I decided I will not be upgrading for a bit; so the search was on! A big thank you to John Collins from Affiliate Money Tips for turning me on to this Threaded Comments plugin.

    It was a toss-up between this and Brians Threaded Comments, which appears to be the most popular. My main selling point for this one was no theme tweaking, just upload and activate. (Brians requires an upload of a new comments.php file which was not attractive to me.)

    I haven’t fiddled with any of the really cool settings, features and options yet, but I wanted it announced ASAP! I know you’ve been patient ;) .

    It’s also installed on my personal blog/hub. An Edit Comments plugin is coming soon.

    Enjoy!
    Dennis

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    88 Responses to “Threaded Comments Have Arrived! Edit Comments Is Coming…”

    1. Commentluv Says:

      Gosh, I didn’t know of any other threaded comments plugin apart from Brian’s. The latter took me 2 hours to get it right.

      Now I’m not too sure if it works on Thesis theme. I guess I just need to give it a try.

      Yan

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Brian’s does appear the most popular for sure, maybe he was first? I didn’t know there was either.

      I don’t think this one even comes up if you search threaded comments plugins, in Google.

      Reply

      Commentluv Reply:

      Thanks for the heads up, anyway. If only I knew this before…..

      Yan

      Commentluv´s last blog post..ABloggerBlog.com : Featured Site

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Yan - you can always switch if it continues to be a pain…or save the new one for future blogs. :)

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      Ben Pei Reply:

      What problem did you face with brian’s plugin?

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Ben - I didn’t even try Brian’s after I realized I had to upload a whole new comments.php file….I try to avoid such things. LOL

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    2. Kathy @ Virtual Impax Says:

      It’s only paranoia is they’re NOT out to get you! In other words, I think your hesitation is wise!!!

      It’s nice to know how to get threaded comments without upgrading to 2.7.

      Kathy @ Virtual Impax´s last blog post..Twitter Bug on the Loose

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      LOL Kathy, thanks! I’m glad it was helpful. :)

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    3. Missy (from G34 Media) Says:

      I created a new blog through my host which already has 2.7, so when you create a new blog, you automatically will get 2.7 and although the kids like it. I dont.

      I mean its not that i don’t like it, it has a series of neat features, but it is so RADICALLY different. Not to mention the write a new post area is so crammed in. Arggghh.

      But on some of my blogs it still is not upgraded, so all is right with the world. lol.

      Unfortunately we will all have to upgrade to 2.7 and jeez on the wp admin dashboard there is already talk of 2.8
      I’m like c~mon enough with the never ending upgrades.

      Missy (from G34 Media)´s last blog post..I Won An iPod Nano!!!

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      So true Missy, I’m a little tired of new versions myself. You never actually have to upgrade, but there are security issues eventually…or so we’re told. ;)

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      The Internet Marketing Maven Reply:

      I bit the bullet and upgraded a couple of weeks ago, Dennis. It really is a better interface, but it takes a little getting used to. Once you do, though, you’ll realize how much better it is. Also, it will do the next upgrade for you (so they say), so that should make us all happy.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Missy - It does have the auto-upgrade feature integrated, but I have that now with a plugin. I’m just waiting a bit until I’m satisfied that it is stable, plus I like what I got. :)

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      Sire Reply:

      Hey Missy, you will get used to it and when you do you will love it. As for the write area being so crammed in, are you sure you’re not using the ‘Quick Press’?

      Sire´s last blog post..Sire’s ‘Ice Breaker’ Pick Up Line

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      Commentluv Reply:

      By the way, I’ve not tried to ‘quick press’ myself. What does it do essentially?

      Commentluv´s last blog post..ABloggerBlog.com : Featured Site

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      Sire Reply:

      I think it’s a way of doing a quick post without all the frills.

      Sire´s last blog post..Sire’s ‘Ice Breaker’ Pick Up Line

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    4. Christine Senter Says:

      Wow, you are all so far ahead of me in this game it isn’t even funny. I’m thrilled if I can find a theme with comments built in, let alone finding stuff to add to them. LOL

      Keep us informed on how this one works, might need to check into it a bit closer.

      Thanks Dennis. :)
      Christine Senter´s last blog post..Michael Geffner-Wednesday’s Writer-1-7-09

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Hey Christine, it’s working beautifully so far. It should only get better once I did into the options. :)

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    5. Sire Says:

      I actually use that one on some of my other blogs, but it doesn’t work on all of them and that’s when trusty old Brian’s come in. Also I’ve noticed that when a particular plugin won’t work with a comment’s theme, if I use Brian’s comment.php everything starts to work again, perhaps because his is more generic.

      Sire´s last blog post..Sire’s ‘Ice Breaker’ Pick Up Line

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Thanks for the heads up Sire. I’ll have to see if I use other themes.

      Reply

      Commentluv Reply:

      Well, it did not work out well on my Thesis theme. I guess I have to make do without it now till I get comment count as big as Dennis’……..

      Yan

      Commentluv´s last blog post..ABloggerBlog.com : Featured Site

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Per post Yan, I’d say yours is already bigger…comment count that is. ;)

      Reply

      Nick Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, …you know what they say about a blogger with a big comment count…:)

      Nick´s last blog post..The Assumption Song - A fun video for a Friday

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Nick, they have no life? LOL

      OK easy now, lets not get to far OT. ;)

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      Commentluv Reply:

      @Nick, I presume you are saying the commenters have no life and not the blog owner, aren’t you?

      Commentluv´s last blog post..Leave Your Blog and Let CommentLuv Show You The Way

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Commentluv, actually I was the one that said it. I was answering Nicks question with a question lol.

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    6. Nick Says:

      It’s about time! Personally, I use Brian’s but then again, I didn’t really look too hard when I set my site up. Since it seems to be working just fine I think I’ll leave it and for any new sites, my host provides 2.7 so I won’t have to worry about it.

      Nick´s last blog post..I’d go solar if the cells were cheaper and more efficient

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Once I upgrade to 2.7 I’ll have to see which threaded option is better.

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      Nick Reply:

      My vote would be for the included one simply because it’s already built-in and there is no need to consider adding extra “stuff” that could possibly cause complications down the road or slow down loading time.

      Nick´s last blog post..I’d go solar if the cells were cheaper and more efficient

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      I already have the extra stuff, so it may just come down to features and options. Of course if it does prove to mess with others, i may then remove it anyway.

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    7. Donny Gamble Says:

      I will definitely try out this new plugin and compare it with Brian’s threaded comments plugin

      Donny Gamble´s last blog post..Next Generation of Link Building

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Cool Donny, let us know how it goes. :)

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    8. John Collins Says:

      Hi Dennis -

      I had been thinking about searching out a plugin to edit comments but it was even near the top of my to do list.

      I first considered it when I got a comment from a product owner (Karl P). I prefer to look at it as he was just trying to get me to checkout his ebook about Squidoo. I had 2 other authors I had promoted at the bottom of my Squidoo articles. If I was going to add his I couldn’t very well publish his his comment because if I did the links he used would bypass my affiliate link. I just left his comment in moderation.

      After I installed WP Ajax Edit Comments I was able to De-link his comment and publish it. I did this to use it to my benefit. I use Ninja Affiliate to insert my affiliate links and just used is site name in the body of the comment as a keyword redirect and made a link of it. So now I have my affiliate link for his ebook in his comment. However this is not what got me to search out a edit comments plugin.

      It was another commentor George that left a comment that was almost not worth answering because he really didn’t give enough info to answer him. I checked out his url’s and at least they seemed legitimate except he left a letter out when he entered his url. That’s what got me to look for the comment editor. I wanted to put that letter into his url so it was functional.

      You know it can be a real pain searching for a plugin on the WordPress.org site. It’s not uncommon to end up with 20 plus pages to search through and that’s if you’re checking one category or search result. But I always go through the whole list. I never know how to take it when I see the author says something that can be taken as a courtesy warning or may indicate a real problem with the plugin. I’ve seen quite a few of these. I now look at them as a courtesy because it would be easier for the author to say nothing.

      This plugin has one of these warnings - “When using this plugin for the first time, please test out various characters. If there are any issues, please de-activate
      the plugin immediately and file a support request”. This almost scared me off but I threw caution to the wind and gave it a try. I’ve had more problems come up with plugins that give no warning. Figures.

      The WP Ajax Edit Comments plugin has some really cool features. This allows you to edit comments where in admin or right on the post page. It has a lot of options you can tweak for admin, registered users and regular visitors. It allows the commentor to edit their own comment if you allow it for a time period you set. I have mine set for 10 minutes. The default is 5. There is a countdown timer visible if you want.

      For this function to work you must turn off moderation in your comments settings area. If you don’t the comment will be editable when you allow it to publish and your visitor will be long gone. As admin you can edit any comment any time with no time limits. You can edit everything which was what I wanted. The Name, eMail, Website and the Comment. The icons for the options include a text title. Admin gets - Edit, De-link, Moderate, Spam and Delete Options. The regular commentor sees an Edit icon and the time they have left to edit their comment. It’s easy to use and set up.

      I really like this plugin but here’s what you need to know.

      Requires WordPress Version: 2.5 or higher Compatible up to: 2.7 but in the readme there is a link for a stable version for WP versions 2.1 - 2.5

      It’s designed to work with Akismet and Defensio for spam protection. I use Akismet. In the plugin settings you can tic Akismet, Defensio or none.

      WP Ajax Edit Comments

      http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-ajax-edit-comments/

      Commentors I mentioned above can be seen via the link below.

      John Collins´s last blog post..Try Squidoo And Make Money From Home

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      Nick Reply:

      In regards to editing comments, the admin of a site can edit comments and do things like adjust URLs, add or remove links, and correct spelling whether you have a given plugin install or not. Simply go into the Wordpress dashboard, browse to the comment in question and choose the “edit” option.

      Alternatively, you can modify the comment directly in the database without going to Wordpress if you desire, but you do have a greater risk of breaking something!

      In my opinion, the plugin creators that give the warnings are the good ones because they are aware of certain issues with their plugin and are being upfront about problems it might cause rather than trying to hide it just to get you to use their plugin.

      Nick´s last blog post..Where have all the good phones gone?

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Wow lots of info John, thanks! I downloaded it already on a recommendation from Sire, but I will definitely refer to this again before installing it. :)

      Reply

    9. Sherry Says:

      Edit comments , does it mean that you can change comment with the time it sets?

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      Nick Reply:

      I’m pretty sure that’s what he means by that…this way if you make a typo, if you notice it in time you can correct it and not look like such an idiot (I’ve done this more than once)

      I wonder though how that works in conjunction with subscribe to comments (does the subscription service wait until the editing time limit has passed?)

      Nick´s last blog post..Where have all the good phones gone?

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      Sherry Reply:

      @Nick, yeah that is good as I used to type typo and need to comment again on what I said.

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      John Collins Reply:

      What happens is you enter your comment and click Submit. Your comment looks normal but there is an Edit Icon in the bottom area and right next to that is a countdown timer. The amount of time you are allowed to edit your comment can be set by the blog administrator. The WP Ajax Edit Comments plugin has a default of 5 minutes. I currently set mine to 10 minutes. I wanted to give enough time to the commentor to read threw a lengthy comment and have time to make correction without racing the clock.

      When you click the Edit Icon an edit window appears with your comment in it and you can still see the countdown timer racing. When your complete your edit you just click Save and your done. If there is any time left on the timer the Edit Icon is still visible and functional. If you have time and wish to edit a second time you can.

      John Collins´s last blog post..Why Buy A Domain Name When Using Blogger Or

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Thanks for answering Sherry guys, I appreciate that.

      Nick - I’m not sure on the subscribe issue, but I will certainly look into it before installation.

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      Nick Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, that would be a good idea because other wise it might send an email for the original comment, and then another with the edited version…

      Nick´s last blog post..The Assumption Song - A fun video for a Friday

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      Sherry Reply:

      @John Collins, it is good that can set the time for comment. This way can avoid spam comments.

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    10. Wei Liang | Earn Money Online Says:

      There you go Dennis with the threaded comments. It is much easier to see your response to the individual comment.

      Wei Liang

      P.S Congrats on breaking the 200 subscribers

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Thanks Wei - I’ll post it soon, hehe.

      Reply

    11. Brian D. Hawkins Says:

      Here’s a dumb question but is threaded and ajaxed the same thing?

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      Nick Reply:

      My answer would be no. Threaded comments just means that the comments appear nested below each other if the comment author uses the included “reply” link (like I have here) and makes it easier to follow the line of conversation. This is especially useful when several conversation threads get started in the comments to a single post (as often happens here at DSWM).

      AJAX refers to scripting that can be used to enhance the display/interactivity of a site. For example, some sites use AJAX (I believe) to have the comments “slide” up and down when someone clicks to reply to a given comment. Many drop-down type menus that you see thoughout the internet run on AJAX as well.

      Hope this helps clear that up for you!

      Nick´s last blog post..Where have all the good phones gone?

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      Brian D. Hawkins Reply:

      @Nick, Thanks Nick. I’m going to give threaded comments a try.

      Brian D. Hawkins´s last blog post..100 Dollar Domains - Special Offer

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      John Collins Reply:

      The way Ajax works like with this plugin is it allows an exchange of information from your browser back to the server and back to your browser. It is just doing this for a small defined area within the web page like the area your comment is in. Ajax allows just your comment to be updated on the page without reloading the whole page making it faster and making the Ajaxed area seem interactive.

      Using this plugin you can get a good feel for how it works. You see it using the editor. After an edit and save it shadows over the editor and has an activity bar then leads you to believe the update is occurring and then it disappears and there’s you edited comment with all the other comments. If you’re admin and you delete a comment the comment turns red and the comments below it slide up over the deleted comment until it’s completely covered. Like it wasn’t ever there.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Thanks again for the answers, I didn’t know either. Ajax is not currently enabled…should I?

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      John Collins Reply:

      Hi Dennis -

      Not required it’s just related to this plugin and it handles it.
      All I did was upload and activate. I didn’t ajax enable my whole site.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @John Collins, Thanks man. I guess I’ll just leave it for now then.

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    12. work at home ideas Says:

      Well the last time I used Brian’s Threaded Comment plugin, I hacked my own blog so I’m a little cautious. May wait for the dust to settle first…perhaps after you’ve done it.
      I’m still using WP 2.6 as I prefer it having used the WP2.7 on my new blog. Also someone had lots of problem after upgrading and had to restore back to the old version (I think it’s JR) so I’m not too keen after hearing that.

      Peter

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Same here Peter, I’m fine with 2.6 for a while. I like this plugin due to no hacking! :)

      Reply

    13. Ben Pei Says:

      Aww dang Dennis, I thought you referred to my recommendation for this!

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Sorry Ben, did you recommend it?

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    14. Shirley Says:

      Great addition to the website. I temporarily enabled threaded comments on mine, using the new 2.7 feature but have since turned it off… I think I will decide on one of these better threaded comments plugins.

      The default feature doesn’t use the nice AJAX features of these plugins to nest the reply box after the comment that you’re replying to.

      One suggestion: remove the post numbering. ie. due to nested comments, it only counts to 13, even though there are 27 (and counting) responses.

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      Nick Reply:

      I agree that it might be a good idea to remove the numbering of the individual comments….In regards to the AJAX features, is all that fanciness really that necessary? :P

      However, it probably wouldn’t be terribly difficult to integrate AJAX type features into the threaded comments embedded in Wordpress and might save the trouble of having additional plugins installed.

      Nick´s last blog post..Where have all the good phones gone?

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      OK confusion strikes….I don’t see numbers?

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      Nick Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, the numbers we are referring to are next to each of the “top level” comments. For example, there is a “14″ next to Shirley’s comment above and a “1″ next to Yan’s original comment on this post.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Nick, Ohhhh (duh me) I thought y’all were referring to individuals comment count as some show.

      Yea, that might be a theme thing, I dunno. It’s always been there though. There’s nothing in the admin referring to it, and (I think) it’s too silly to actually go poking around the core code for it.

      Is it really a problem?

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      Nick Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, It is most likely in the theme code somewhere, but as far as not wanting to poke around and find it, that’s your choice. It really isn’t a terribly major issue but rather a suggestion that Shirley made and I agreed with :)
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      John Collins Reply:

      @Dennis Edell,

      I kind of like the numbering. If you know your comment is number 14 and you’re notified of a reply it’s easy to locate. As are all the other top level comments. Easier to pick out the start point of each one if you’re quickly scrolling down the page.

      At the top of the comments it says 80 Responses (at this moment) and I see by the mentioned numbering there is 19 comments. If the numbering was removed I’d have to do a manual count to see how many top level comments were actually made.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @John Collins, luckily when notified of a reply, the link in the comments area of the admin takes me to the exact comment.

      I don’t really agree or disagree lol. I just don’t see why it would be a bother. More to the point, why one would bother removing them. But that’s me. :)

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    15. Tara @ Affiliate Marketing Prodigy Says:

      Dennis, you know I have tried 3 different threaded comment plugins and can not get any of them to work with the damn theme I am using. I really like my theme, so I do not want to switch, but I can not seem to get any to work!

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      Sire Reply:

      Tara, did you try Brian’s threaded comments at all. If you do decide to use it make sure you make a backup of your old comment.php

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      Nick Reply:

      To back up the original comments.php file, just rename it to something like comments.php.original or something like that. Much easier than trying to store it somewhere, remember where it was stored or remember what it is or why you had it there when you happen across it one day. This way it is easily identified and is with the rest of your theme parts :)
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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Have you tried this one Tara?

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    16. Barbara Swafford Says:

      Hi Dennis - I’ve contemplated threaded comments, but aren’t sold on them just yet. I see the advantages, as you can reply to each comment individually (in case they build up) and others can reply to another commenter’s comment, which is good……….hmmmm! What’s my concern? I think I may have just talked myself into them.

      I’ll have to check out the plugin. Thanks for sharing.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      LOL Barbara, glad I could help! (Damn that was easy.) :)

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    17. Nihar Says:

      Dennis, I have invested 2-3 days in tinkering my theme to get threaded comments working.

      I should have gone your path. Will check the plugins mentioned in the post.

      Yan also mentioned once that he is using brain threaded comments.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      Never heard of brain, but let me know how it works for ya Nihar. :)

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    18. Dennis Edell Says:

      Hey everyone, notice a couple more options enabled? This is just too cool. LOL

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      Commentluv Reply:

      @Dennis Edell,

      I need to borrow Sire’s microscopic glasses to see. Am I missing something?

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      Sire Reply:

      @Commentluv, Maybe I should rent them out. What do you reckon is a fair offer Yan?

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      Commentluv Reply:

      @Sire, It depends. You throw the hat your wife is not fond of into the package, it might fetch higher. I reckon….. ;-)

      Reply

      Sire Reply:

      @Commentluv, No WAY Yan! I love that hat.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Commentluv,

      The @Name feature is auto-enabled and the ability to delete your comment if you so desire. (Yes, edit is coming, I promise)

      Not too big a deal, but exciting for me as a new toy. LOL

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    19. Brian D. Hawkins Says:

      I just installed Brian’s Threaded Comments. So far so good.

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins, well I assume you’d be biased to Brian’s. ;)

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      Ben Pei Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, Lol you mean Brian voting for Brian?

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Ben Pei, hehe.

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      Brian D. Hawkins Reply:

      @Dennis Edell, You mean Brain don’t you ;)
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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Brian D. Hawkins, I still have no idea what that means. LOL

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    20. Robin-IronBlogger Says:

      I think I need to ad a subscribe to plugin for my comments. I’ve had a few requests for it at my blog already…

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      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @IronBlogger, the subscribe to comments plugin is one of the most important. ;)

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    21. Kay @ SEO Diva Says:

      Thanks, Dennis. The one I tried before didn’t work…I’ll give this plugin a shot. I like how they look on your blog.

      Reply

      Dennis Edell Reply:

      @Kay @ SEO Diva,

      Thanks Kay and I look forward to seeing how it works out. :)

      Reply

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