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As I wrote last, after reading much about how RSS subscribers hate having to click the link to read the full article, and even getting some personal requests for a full feed, I have complied 
After all, it’s all for the readers right? Yes!
After atempting the “full feed plugin” and failing miserably, I contacted Feedburner for some help. Their forum is now closed so I found their new “help” group (sigh) with a plea for help. The response I received was a little less then helpful, “If FeedBurner doesn’t receive your full post, there is no way for it to republish your full post.”
Umm OK, so much for that idea.
So as you can see here, I’ve decided to publish full articles right here in the open…no clicking for feed or straight blog readers!
This of course forces me to change the amount of posts on the home page. If I stick with 10 full length posts, you’ll be scrolling ’till New Years, and that’s unacceptable.
I’ll try 5 and take it down from there (the feed is set to 1 at a time)…..I would appreciate any and all feedback on this from readers
An Apology and Plea for Understanding
Almost instantaneously after posting about being full feed, my reader count JUMPED to 45. Very cool I thought! It’s true! Then almost instantaneously after that post went to feed and didn’t work, 4 subscribers unsubscribed :(, so I immediately updated the post saying to please hang on as I was going to fix things ASAP!
As of this morning, it is down another 4…..Now WE ARE FULL FEED and will remain so. I hope you all understand and will reconsider subscribing once again.
You need to have a full feed RSS feed in order to keep subscribers. More and more feed subscribers are unsubscribing as they are forced to click the link to read the full article.
Never stop pushing forward!
Dennis
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April 18th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
Dennis,
You feed count fluctuates because it measures the average readers that accessed the feed during the previous day, not because people unsubscribed.
So, don’t worry dude! Full RSS it the way to go!
Cheers,
Alex
Alex at Net-Entrepreneur.com’s last blog post..Increasing Blog Stickiness
April 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Thanks for dropping by Alex!
Ok then, how do I get a count of actual subscribers total?
April 18th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
You can’t! This is how it works.
The only way to make the counter “steady” is to offer only email subscription. When subscribing to email, the reader doesn’t have to actually access the feed to count as a subscriber.
That’s why bloggers prefer readers to subscribe by email - their counter would not fluctuate so much.
Did you subscribe to mine?!
Cheers,
Alex
Alex at Net-Entrepreneur.com’s last blog post..Increasing Blog Stickiness
April 18th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Dang, I was afraid of that. But I appreciate the explanation
I’ve been subscribed for a bit
April 19th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
I like bloggers. We’re such a friendly, helpful bunch.
For a while, we weren’t publishing a full feed because we were worried about scraper blogs that were just ripping our content.
(Now we figure that most scraper blogs are too lazy to take out our links, so we just make sure we have a lot of internal links in our posts, and then we get the backlinks from the scraper blogs. Besides, we’re posting our articles in article directories and those get reposted around the web, so I suppose it doesn’t matter anyways.)
But, having read this post, I think we might switch. (We hadn’t thought about needing a plugin to get a full feed out there, but you’re right - I guess the more tag does limit things.)
WebDiggin’s last blog post..5 domain names for 5 dollars (and free privacy registration to boot)
April 19th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Alex mentioned that bloggers prefer readers to subscribe by email.
I never thought about that, but that’s an added bonus of our current contest. (We’ll pay you to be our friend.)
We’re offering 2 contest ballots for an email subscription. (1 for a comment, and 25 for a post link) - Gorilla Sushi had a great model, so we copied them (except they’re giving away $100, and we can only afford $25 right now.)
We’re a small nobody blog, so we’re happy with the 7 email subscribers that the contest has pulled in so far. But again, at this point, we’re easily amused.
WebDiggin’s last blog post..5 domain names for 5 dollars (and free privacy registration to boot)
April 19th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Congrats on going full feed Dennis!
A new feature with WordPress 2.5 is to have the ability to use the more tag and still provide full feeds. If you update your WordPress, that may be a feature you’re interested in.
Good luck!
Katy Castro’s last blog post..Make Out Dated Content Timeless
April 20th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Web - yes you WILL see your subscriber count rise if you go full feed, especially if there’s a post announcing it
Unfortunately, the plugin doesn’t seem to work with feedburner feeds.
Alex is right. In my opinion readers are similar to personal bookmarks…how often do people REALLY check them.
Good luck on your contest but be careful of 2 things when commenting….keywording the name field and plugging inside a comment; many bloggers including myself don’t like it.
I let yours through this time because it did have *some* relevance (very little) and I was already aware of who you are
April 20th, 2008 at 11:51 am
Thanks Katy! (This means you subscribed, right? ;))
And ummno lol, I’m not going 2.5 until it is at least 3.0 LOL.
Too many horror stories and the worst of all (for me) is the plugin incompatibility issues…I am a plugin junky and there are some that I truly cannot blog without
Besides, ALL software is too buggy to deal with on it’s first release.
April 21st, 2008 at 12:07 am
Katy - thanks for the heads-up about the feature in 2.5. We were going to switch, until we read Dennis’ point about plugin incompatibility. I think we’ll take the lazy route and not upgrade, for now.
Dennis, thanks for the comment about the bait-and-switch on our blog. It made us think more carefully about what the term implied. I still think it’s an appropriate term, but you’re right - it does have an overtone of fraud that isn’t applicable in this case.
Fair enough about the pluggin inside the comment. I never really thought about WebDiggin as keywording the comment name field - only because WebDiggin is more of our identity / brand, as it is a keyword search term. (No one googles webdiggin.) I suppose there is that keywordluv plugin that encourages you to leave your name@keywords, but we never installed it on our blog because of the fear of having ugly name fields if we ever uninstalled the plugin.
So, is Mark at WebDiggin.com the preferred comment etiquette?
Mark at WebDiggin.com’s last blog post..How Much Are Your Subscribers Worth?
April 21st, 2008 at 6:46 am
Hey Mark (see how much better that looks?),
The main point is basically that comments are meant to be a discussion, so “hiya Mark” looks and sounds a lot better then “hiya make money online”, know what I mean?
I realize webdiggin isn’t a “keyword” specifically, but anything other then first and/or last name’s are really starting to send up red flags to bloggers, especially those that are known to be do-follow.
Mark@webdiggin *should* be OK with most, it’s OK with me
Now I’m not entirely sure what you mean about the CL plugin…it feeds off the URL you leave and has nothing to do with the name field; as far as I know?
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:01 am
Actually, the part I like best is your sign off - “To our mutual success.” I like those kinds of blogs. Such happy people are we.
There is a Keyword Luv that Stephen Cronin has that lets people sign off Mark at WebDiggin and it’ll convert the keyword part into a link.
http://www.scratch99.com/2008/04/new-wordpress-plugin-keywordluv/
It’s different from the CommentLuv plugin. We still are debating on installing it.
Mark at WebDiggin’s last blog post..PPC Affiliate Marketing - Learn from your competiton
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:04 am
Hey Dennis - you can delete this comment. I didn’t mean to put a live link in there - I just cut-and-pasted it from the web browser and forgot to take out the http://
Sigh. How many more rookie mistakes are there left to be made today!
Mark at WebDiggin’s last blog post..PPC Affiliate Marketing - Learn from your competiton
April 23rd, 2008 at 12:51 pm
Hey Mark,
I also just recently heard of and downloaded the new plugin, but have not installed it yet. As you can see, I’m all for link love, but wondering if this will just produce double the spam/crap comments i get now while using DF & CL.
As for links in comments, I should have added an extra line there…..IF the link is on target and ads value to the actual post/comments, then it’s acceptable…to most bloggers anyway.
Some don’t want ANY links inside comments..ya gotta feel ‘em out or just ask if it’s a blog you plan to comment on often
April 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
We just tried that plugin to show our full feed showing beyond the more tag. (We’ve found that sometimes you get different results with different templates - more with javascript hacks than wordpress plugins, but I guess it didn’t hurt to try)
The full text plugin didn’t work for us, either.
Are you not using the more tag any more? (This post has a more tag, doesn’t it?) Or are you publishing the post and then a few days later going back in and adding a more tag. (I wonder if that would work.)
Maybe we’ll just take katy’s point and upgrade to 2.5. (That’ll be a hassle and leap of faith.) What’s your take on it now?
Mark at WebDiggin’s last blog post..3 days left to win $25
April 27th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Instead of using the more tag, use the Optional Excerpt. You can either copy the first few lines of the post or a brief description of the post. the important thing is that you can still specify full-feeds in the Admin Panel and you don’t need any plugins
I have been using this method since day one, the only place I have the full post is on the single post page and I still provide a full-feed to everyone. This works in both 2.3.x and 2.5.
Colin King’s last blog post..How to Style Your Comments - Part 2
April 27th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
@Mark - Nope, no more more tag here, not on this post either. I may try your idea of publishing the post and then going back in and adding a more tag; this would work as far as publishing full feed and then making the page look cleaner…..little bit of a nuisance though, I would imagine.
I’m not upgrading to 2.5 until it’s at least 3.0 LOL. Maybe a little exaggeration there, but you get my point…don’t even get me started
April 27th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
@Colin - excuse the dumb question, but what and where is the “Optional Excerpt”? I may be totally spacing here, but I’m not sure I know what you’re talking about.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:53 am
The Optional Excerpt is towards the bottom of the same page where you write and/or modify a post. It’s a text box, I can’t remember what the character limit is or if there is even one. You can put whatever you want in there and it keeps any styling and images.
Colin King’s last blog post..How to Style Your Comments - Part 2
April 28th, 2008 at 8:07 am
hi there, first time visitor, got here through Mark at Webdiggin´ and just wanted to add that Stephen Cronin has another plugin you might find usefull, seeing that you have gone full feed. his plugin lets visitors choose when signing up for the feed, either to receive it full or not, plus it get´s round the “more-tag” issue without a problem.
Don´t have a direct link to the plugin, but just follow the link Mark has already put to get to Stephen´s blog and it is pretty easy to locate
Mirjam’s last blog post..I´m on a Break!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:34 am
@Colin - OK maybe I should just delete all latest comments to keep my stupidity between us - lmao!
I can’t believe I never noticed that, or at least didn’t know what it was for.
So it acts like the *more* tag on-site, but puts full feeds through RSS, is this correct?
By “You can put whatever you want in there” you mean it doesn’t even have to be part of the article…it can be just like a few lines of write-up…keyworded even. Correct?
Sorry about the questions…since I ticked off more then a few readers with the plugin fiasco, I just want to be sure I got this BEFORE I try it
Thanks for all your help!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:37 am
@Mirjam - hey buddy, great to see ya here! I really appreciate the heads up, but to be honest I will not be using anymore plugins in this matter unless absolutely necessary.
As I wrote to Colin above, the last thing I want to do is tick off more subs if I can avoid it
Hope to c’ya ’round more often!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:45 am
I can completely understand
I am pretty happy just offering full feed and email subscriptions and don´t really want to mess around too much either.
I just noticed your commentluv did not show my last post, and wanted to give the heads up on it, but it seems problems are on my end :S:S
Anyways, I probably will be back
I have noticed kind some bloggers familiar to me, commenting here. Funny to see really, the same bloggers visiting the same blogs 
Keep it up!
Mirjam’s last blog post..I´m on a Break!
April 28th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Right on Mirjam, get it to where ya want it, then leave it be! LOL
I’m seeing you CL link fine on both comments. If you do have problems though, just visit the creator…he is very helpful.
Funny yo mention bloggers seeing bloggers, I just had that conversation on another post…this behaviour is awesome for a lot of reasons, keep it up!
April 28th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
“By “You can put whatever you want in there” you mean it doesn’t even have to be part of the article…it can be just like a few lines of write-up…keyworded even. Correct?”
Darn tooting
It doesn’t have to be from the post, it can be an overview of the post, keyworded, whatever…
You will have to edit index.php to use ‘the_excerpt()’ instead of ‘the_content()’ in the loop and add your own ‘read more’ link like:
<a href="<?php the_permalink(); ?>" rel="nofollow">CONTINUE READING ==></a>
Colin King’s last blog post..How to Style Your Comments - Part 2
April 28th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Aha! I KNEW there was more to it and DOUBLE KNEW it was gonns be techy, shame on you!
Lets see what I’ve learned before I give you my un&pw lol…
I replace ‘the_excerpt()’ instead of ‘the_content()’ in this line: < ?php the_content('Read the rest of this entry »'); ?>
and replace: ” class=”permalink”>Read More, with the one you wrote above.
Am I even close?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
CRAP I can’t put the code in lol.
April 28th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
What do you expect from a geek
All changes happen inside the ‘entry’ div, in mine I put the readmore link inside a div for some reason, can’t remember why but it works…
<div class="entry">
<?php the_excerpt(); ?>
<div class="readmore"><a href="<?php the_permalink(); ?>" rel="nofollow">CONTINUE READING ==></a></div>
</div>
Colin King’s last blog post..How to Style Your Comments - Part 2
April 28th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Sshhoooooom - that’s your comment going right over my head LOL
Seriously, I can see where everything is, but mines in 2 different places, not all one like your example.
I’d love to use it, but don’t mess with code unless I’m pretty darn close to exact.
April 29th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Okay, no prob… Send me your index.php, I’ll mod it and send it back so that you can upload it.
Colin King’s last blog post..How To style your Comments - Part 3
April 29th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Email sent. Index attached along with a question. Thanks!
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